Hypergrid Adventurers Club meet #13+14: Exploring the German grid of Metropolis Metaversum

In today’s two meetings we explored Metropolis Metaversum for the first time.

We met some of the citizens of Metropolis, visited a beautiful train station, looked at classic German architecture, and found some nice freebies along the way.  We also learned that Nani Ferguson from FrancoGrid is creating a special scavenger hunt event for Christmas.  Read on for a full transcript and many photos.

For more information about the Hypergrid Adventurers Club and how you can join us, please see our homepage.  You can also follow our club’s tweets at #HGAC.

Meeting #13
11/21/2010 : 5pm GMT

18 Hypernauts in attendance:

Bill Windwalker
Oronoque Westland
LexGrey Barbosa
Mal Burns
Jokay Wollongong
Aloe Cortex
Neo Cortex
Raindrops Silvercloud
Ange Menges
Kaseido Quandry
Nyx Ivory
Da5id Zsigmond
Marmottina Taurog
Mel Blauvelt
Nila Indigo
LeonTubrok Beaumont
Mimetic Core
Pathfinder Lester

3 Local Visitors we met in Metropolis:

lara sanders
Brunhild Messerchmitt
Uwe Furse

Note: We often use Babbler translators in our meetings.  To help make this chat log easier to read, I will delete the non-English translations.  If you are not a native English speaker, you can simply translate this entire log into your native language using something like Google Translate.

We begin on the region Pathlandia on jokaydiaGRID.

Pathfinder Lester: there’s a huge octopus attacking my pirate ship
Marmottina Taurog: Yikes !
Pathfinder Lester: i need to find some cannons or something to help defend the ship

Ange Menges: Ah ! a francogrid member that I have never seen 🙂 Nice to come here to meet Pathfinder Lester: Ange, that’s awesome. 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: I’ve been thrilled with all our recent tours on FrancoGrid
Pathfinder Lester: you’ve got a great place there.
Kaseido Quandry: it really is impressive
Ange Menges: Well before you start, may I announce something ?
Pathfinder Lester: Ange, please do.
Ange Menges: For Christmas, Nani Ferguson (you know her now), has made a special grid
Mal Burns: oh nice
Ange Menges: You will have to find 110 gift hidden
Pathfinder Lester: Nani, from Pandora!
Mimetic Core: a hunt!
Ange Menges: some easy some not at all
LexGrey.Barbosa: one hunt ?
Pathfinder Lester: a scavenger hunt!
Ange Menges: with chance you will find a chocolate labyrinth
Mimetic Core: wow
Ange Menges: lol
Pathfinder Lester: wow
Ange Menges: so we will annouce that soon on twitter
Marmottina Taurog: cool !
Mimetic Core: cool
Ange Menges: you will all be welcome
Pathfinder Lester: oh that is fantastic news Ange. thank you for telling us about it.
Ange Menges: and don’t think one hour will be sufficient
Ange Menges: lol
Pathfinder Lester: well, we can have a special HGAC tour for that scavenger hunt, definitely!
Marmottina Taurog: Great !
Pathfinder Lester: that’s very exciting
Ange Menges: The sim will be opened more than one week I think
Pathfinder Lester: scavenger hunts are so much fun.
Pathfinder Lester: I’m going to kick things off now. welcome everyone to the Hypergrid Adventurers Club!
Raindrops Silvercloud: Hi everyone, sorry for being late, am very excited to read about your project, ange!
Pathfinder Lester: thank you all for coming….
Pathfinder Lester: we spend the first 30 min introducing ourselves and having an open discussion…..
Pathfinder Lester: i also post a full report and transcript of every meeting on my blog….
Pathfinder Lester: so if you do NOT want your chat on the blog, please just say so in open chat and I will redact your comments.
Pathfinder Lester: please just type in open chat whatever you’d like to introduce yourself and your interests/projects…..
Mimetic Core: can you edit our comments to sound smarter?
Pathfinder Lester: and since your chat will be on my blog, you’ll get a wider audience. so feel free to type URLs or whatever you’d like to share with the world.
Kaseido Quandry: I’ll take +2 INT, please, then
Pathfinder Lester: Mimetic, lol
Raindrops Silvercloud: oh yes, and run them through a spell and grammar checker:)
Pathfinder Lester: we’re all introducing ourselves and our interests/projects. feel free to jump in. everyone can type at the same time.
Mal Burns: Mal Burns – Metaverse News Aggregator & Broadcaster – http://twitter.com/malburns and http://mbtv.live.nu
Pathfinder Lester: I am going to hand out a notecard to everyone while you talk and introduce yourselves.
Mimetic Core: RL=Jason Shipley – independent designer developer in Chicago working on hypergrid stuff and opensim uses for prototyping and education
Aloe Cortex: I’m a sociologist with interests in technology and social change.
Kaseido Quandry: Oo, Aloe, we’ve got to talk! 🙂
Marmottina Taurog: I’m an artist and musician in RL and I make plants and landscaping items for my Garden Centre, Green and Wild in SL and InWorldz
Mimetic Core: good turnout today pathfinder
Aloe Cortex: ok, kaseido : )
LexGrey.Barbosa: I’m a user of opensim and amateur to make videos, I have an island in francogrid, and talked with pathfinder to organize a trip to her
Kaseido Quandry: I’m Kas, I’m an adjunct law professor and grad student at Arizona State, teaching two classes on games and virtual worlds next semester, with Nila
LeonTubrok Beaumont: multimedia developer looking into VW for http://www.icarusstudios.co.uk
Pim Peccable: I was a mentor on Agni and I make avatars
Mel Blauvelt: philosopher, Science Circle board, interested in interdisciplinary research, quantification methods for education in virtual worlds, educative design environments
Raindrops Silvercloud: Teacher in training fo rmaths and science at high school level, looking forward to integrating some building into geometry classes – but that will start in more than one year
Da5id Zsigmond: Hi – my first meeting – I’m an SL builder and scripter, etc.. My first foray into Open Sim was getting a terraforming and landscaping job here in Jokaydia.
Da5id Zsigmond: Never tried the HyperGrid yet.
Pim Peccable: Welcome, Da5id
Da5id Zsigmond: 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: Raindrops, please email me later at pathfinder@reactiongrid.com. I know some folks working on amazing geometry projects in OpenSim. Happy to connect you to them.
Nila Indigo: This is my first meeting too – I am on the faculty at ASU and interested in virtual worlds as spaces for learning
Neo.Cortex: Hi, i try to connect all the little dots between the various nets. E.g. today i come from a fresh installed “old” Diva distro to be able to use the HG 1.0 protocol
Da5id Zsigmond is Online
Pathfinder Lester: Neo, oh cool! so you made a Hypergrid jump from your own personal Opensim installation!
Raindrops Silvercloud: thank you, will for sure still fighting with tnv loading, sorry for the missing spanish translation
Pim Peccable: very cool
LexGrey.Barbosa: neox, I also use the old version of Diva to have Hypergreen 1.0
Marmottina Taurog: very very cool ! I can’t get mine personal sim to run :-(((
Neo.Cortex: i notice a little weird detail on the travel
Pathfinder Lester: To all the new folks here, welcome! It’s great to see new people at these meetings.
Pathfinder Lester: And if you’re new, please take a look at that notecard right now.
Pim Peccable: Me neigher Marm I raise one piece of land and it all crashed
Marmottina Taurog: I couldn’t even get that far !
Pathfinder Lester: you’ll see at the top that I mention that you have to have set your Home location and relogged since then in order to make any Hypergrid jumps.
Pathfinder Lester: you can set your Home to here and relog if you wish.
Neo.Cortex: on the middle range hypergate sits a tp sign that offers a tp to reaction grid central, but when i use it i land on Jokaydia grid…
Pathfinder Lester: we won’t leave on our tour without you. I promise. 🙂
Marmottina Taurog: do we need to do it every time or just the once ?
Pathfinder Lester: just once
Marmottina Taurog: Ok ! 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: if you’ve set your Home at some point in the past and have relogged since you did that, you will be fine from now on. 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: before we start on our tour, does anyone have any questions or comments they’d like to share?
Pathfinder Lester: just jump right in. we’re not formal here.
Da5id Zsigmond: a lot of my questions have been around inventory transfer between grids.
Da5id Zsigmond: seems pretty awkward so far.
Da5id Zsigmond: any hints.
Pathfinder Lester: what do you mean by awkward?
Da5id Zsigmond: pretty nearly impossible.
Neo.Cortex: yep, especially since osgrid has moved to the newest opensim version
Pim Peccable: It has been for me. I bought something on FrancoGrid and it took a few days to rez properly here
Mal Burns: Hm – has been ok for me
Neo.Cortex: i think they have screwd up something else… like a misisng update to their ROBUST serbers
Da5id Zsigmond: In theory anyway, should my inventory be available while using the hypergrid??
Pathfinder Lester: Ah, yes, sometimes things you pick up on other grids get “lost” or are slow to rez.
athfinder Lester: Da5id, correct.
Pathfinder Lester: but there are sometimes bumps
Pathfinder Lester: one thing I have noticed……
LexGrey.Barbosa: scripts in other grids also take longer
Pathfinder Lester: if you try picking up a bunch of different things quickly while you are hypergridding….
Neo.Cortex: actually i am wearing a skin i picked up some minutes ago on francogrid
Pathfinder Lester: that sometimes causes problems. so I recommend picking things up one at a time and kind of slowly.
Bill Windwalker: hi pathfinder from old xstorm Radek 😉
Pathfinder Lester: Bill, oh great!
Mimetic Core: HG 2 performs much better, so once the grids begin to upgrade, many of these issues will be solved
Mimetic Core: or at least minimized
Pathfinder Lester: Bill, did you want to introduce yourself to the group?
Pathfinder Lester: we were just going around talking about our background and interests/projects.
Mimetic Core: oops, i said HG 2 but meant 1.5. HG 2 is off in the near futrure
Bill Windwalker: well i was a old IT and DEV back in 1980 ‘s i started with computers back in 1975
Bill Windwalker: i worked setting up some thing called mantis in 1983 in a library in our state
Da5id Zsigmond: we can talk about 6502 machine code lol.
Pathfinder Lester: lol
Neo.Cortex: sys 32768
Bill Windwalker: move in to 3D worlds in 2000
Bill Windwalker: then in to second life beta to try and help
LeonTubrok Beaumont fondly remembers 68000 CPUs
Pathfinder Lester: Bill, wow, so you’ve seen a LOT of change in virtual worlds over the years.
Bill Windwalker: that was 2003 then got temp ban and did come back with xstorm Radek name
Mal Burns: yep – quite a legacy there Bill
Pathfinder Lester: Bill, you’d have a lot to talk about with Cube Inada, who was our guest at our last HGAC meeting.
Bill Windwalker: if it was not for my wife and Pathfinder i will not have stay so long in SL
Oronoque Westland: morning everyone/afternoon/evening/night
Pathfinder Lester: for folks who missed our last tour, here’s a full report: https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/11/20/hypergrid-adventurers-club-meet-12-exploring-spaceships-fly-in-theaters-modular-education-spaces-and-cube3-virtual-products/
Pathfinder Lester: so today…
Pathfinder Lester: we’re going to visit a german grid called Metropolis…..
Pathfinder Lester: I don’t know anyone from that grid, so we’ll all be trailblazers today.
Marmottina Taurog: sounds good !
Mimetic Core: i have a sim attached to metropolis
Pathfinder Lester: Mimetic, oh cool!
LexGrey.Barbosa: I’ve been in some metropolis sims
LexGrey.Barbosa: jumping, a little while
Mimetic Core: i really don’t know anyone there either
Mimetic Core: it’s generally quiet
Pathfinder Lester: well, well be making two jumps today.
Bill Windwalker: im very new at hypergrids
Marmottina Taurog: me too I only ever made one jump before ! 🙂
Bill Windwalker: im still learning to use them
Pathfinder Lester: we’ll use one of the instant hypergates to jump from here (jokaydiagrid) to ReactionGrid….
Pathfinder Lester: then we’ll make a manual jump from ReactionGrid to Metropolis
Nyx Ivory: only got hypergates working for me today
Pathfinder Lester: Nyx, then it will be an adventure!
Da5id Zsigmond: still a virgin.
Pathfinder Lester: lol
Pathfinder Lester: ok, everyone have the notecard?

— Contents of Notecard —
Before doing any Hypergrid jumps, be sure you have set your Home location and have relogged since you set it.  If you don’t, Hypergrid jumps will not work.  This appears to be a bug.

Many people find the Imprudence viewer to be very good for using with both SL and other grids.  You can find it here: http://imprudenceviewer.org/

*** How to make Hypergrid Jumps in 4 easy steps ***
1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter  the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.

*** Our Starting Location ***
Hypergrid Address: 66.240.233.81:9001:pathlandia
Region Name: “Pathlandia”
Grid Location: jokaydiaGRID (Lower)
************************

Hypergrid Jump #1
Hypergrid Address: hypergrid.reactiongrid.com:9009
Region Name: “HG Gateway 1”
Grid Location: ReactionGrid (Middle)
Grid Website: http://reactiongrid.com

We’ll be making this jump using one of the instant Hypergates on Pathlandia.  It’s the stone archway next to the Tardis..   Just walk up to the archway and walk through it.  You will automatically make a Hypergrid jump to “HG Gateway 1.”

For more information on how these instant Hypergates work, see:
https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/10/29/the-metaphor-of-portals/

“HG Gateway 1” is a handy jump point in the “middle” of the Hypergrid.

Hypergrid Jump #2
Hypergrid Address: metropolis.hypergrid.org:9000:*CenterWorld*
Region Name: “*CenterWorld*”
Grid Location:  Metropolis (Upper)
Grid Website: http://metropolis.hypergrid.org

This will be a manual Hypergrid jump.  Follow the 4 steps at the top of this notecard.

Once we arrive at “*CenterWorld*” we’ll explore the train station and freebie market on this German grid.  Look for the nice examples of classic german homes and architecture.

***
jokaydiaGRID has a Newbie Dome for folks to pick up freebies that can help them get started.  If you find any good freebies in your Hypergrid travels that you’d like to share, you can put them in the Newbie Dome.   There’s currently a lack of many good outfits and items for male avatars, so it would be great if we could find more items like that to share.
— End of Notecard —


Jokay Wollongong: i’ll hang out here till everyone makes it out.. yell if you need a hand
Pathfinder Lester: here’s the gate
Pathfinder Lester: walk thru one at a time and wait for us on the other side. 🙂
Bill Windwalker: i bet i will crash lol
Nyx Ivory: love the chime noise
Pathfinder Lester: if it doesn’t work, just step back, wait a moment, and try again
Pathfinder Lester: gate takes a few sec to reset after someone jumps
Bill Windwalker: is it a cross link like back in 2005 ?
Pathfinder Lester: Bill, what to you mean?
Bill Windwalker: well when we had crossing problemson dev island we just a teleport link
Bill Windwalker: to get arounf the problem”
Pathfinder Lester: i believe this is different. this gate initializes a hypergrid jump
Pathfinder Lester: to a totally different grid
Bill Windwalker: oh i wish i can get my grid up
Pathfinder Lester: i’m going to walk thru and see if folks are on the other side

We walk through an instant Hypergate to make a Hypergrid jump from the region Pathlandia on jokaydiaGRID.

And we arrive on the region HG Gateway 1 on ReactionGrid.

Pathfinder.Lester: success!
Pathfinder.Lester: and now….
Pathfinder.Lester: we make a manual jump
Pathfinder.Lester: 1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.
Pathfinder.Lester: address is:
Pathfinder.Lester: metropolis.hypergrid.org:9000:*CenterWorld*
Pathfinder.Lester: i’ll wait as folks make our last jump
Pathfinder.Lester: and if you have any problems, just yell
Pathfinder.Lester: 🙂
Aloe.Cortex: probably shouldn’t all do it at once, should we?
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so where are we now, wich VW?
Pathfinder.Lester: Aloe, it usually doesn’t matter when making manual jumps
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, we are now on the grid “ReactionGrid”
Pathfinder.Lester: we jumped from jokaydiaGrid to ReactionGrid
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: ah ok
Pathfinder.Lester: and now we’re going to jump from ReactionGrid to Metropolis grid.
Neo.Cortex: considering the stress new arriving avatars put on a region…
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so this is a holding place for transfer?
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, it’s a waypoint, yes.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: ok
Pathfinder.Lester: not really a holding point
Pathfinder.Lester: we can’t jump directly from jokaydiagrid to Metropolis because it is too far away on the Hypergrid.
Pathfinder.Lester: so we make a hop. 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: i like to take ppl on hops so they can see how you can jump to multiple grids
Pathfinder.Lester: Oro, shoot.
Pathfinder.Lester: i’m going to jump ahead and see if folks are arriving on Metropolis ok
Oronoque.Westland: pioneering spirit in me
Pathfinder.Lester: hang in there Oro! 😀
Oronoque.Westland: see you there
Pathfinder.Lester: ok, i’m jumping now. see you

We make a manual Hypergrid jump and arrive on the region *CenterWorld* on Metropolis grid.

Pathfinder.Lester: woohoo!
Pathfinder.Lester: made it
Neo.Cortex: i guess those hgac travel groups are a quick way to test some regions stability ^^
Pathfinder.Lester: welcome everyone to Metropolis
Marmottina.Taurog: I’m geeting very laggy
Nyx.Ivory: do landmarks work acroos grids?
Pathfinder.Lester: landmarks only work within the same grid.
Nila.Indigo: Yes, I have some lag too
LexGrey.Barbosa: we are a large group, it is normal slow
Pathfinder.Lester: we can all make our way into the train station if you like
Marmottina.Taurog: I see a mad hamster…
Pathfinder.Lester: or just explore on your own if you wish


Mimetic.Core: the asset swervers seem to run a bit slower than other places, so HG visitors experience a bit more lag
Marmottina.Taurog: there are a lot of us here
Pathfinder.Lester: so you all might want to just come back int he future when it is not so busy!
Pim.Peccable: Now we are testing its limits 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: we should rename our club.
Pathfinder.Lester: Hypergrid Stress Testers Club
Marmottina.Taurog: hahahaha
Pathfinder.Lester: you’ll find some freebie stores here. and remember, you can explore this whole grid. next time you come here, try regular tps to the other regions.
Mimetic.Core: if anyone is interested, you can check out my region – named “doppelganger”. it’s just a workspace that mirrors wjhat i’m building elsewhere.
Pim.Peccable: What time is the Hogwarts Express?


Marmottina.Taurog: cool
Pathfinder.Lester: Pim, lol
Marmottina.Taurog: I have to disappear, Thanks for another interesting journey Pathfinder ! Bye to everyone !
Pathfinder.Lester: there’s a bikini shop in here. lol
Pathfinder.Lester: i’m in a store with some freebies


Pathfinder.Lester: found a free…um….donkey. lol
Pim.Peccable: Not bad for Freebies
Pathfinder.Lester: ooh, a nice raven freebie!
Pathfinder.Lester: I must tell Iggy about it. for his Edgar Allen Poe build. 🙂
Pim.Peccable: Could use him in the Usher Sim
Nila.Indigo: free donkey?? I want one!
Pathfinder.Lester: exactly
Pim.Peccable: hehe I’m reading PAth’s mind again
Pathfinder.Lester: donkey is right next to where I’m standing


Pim.Peccable: no Elephants though
Pathfinder.Lester: some baby bunnies in a carriage
Nila.Indigo: interesting assortment of items – penguins too?
Pathfinder.Lester: oooh, a pretty christmas wreath
Pim.Peccable: Look like Emporere Penguins
Pim.Peccable: Aussehen Emporere Pinguine
Pim.Peccable: Yes, Tea set
Nyx.Ivory: 🙂 feeling civilized again
Pathfinder.Lester: Nyx, lol
Pim.Peccable: next door is an art store – Illusions particularly
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so are we using jokadia asset servers now but logged in here?
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, yes
Pathfinder.Lester: if you take something into your inventory, it will be with you always.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: ah, understand now, thanks
Pathfinder.Lester: in the asset server on jokaydiagrid
Pathfinder.Lester: it’s like you have a wormhole back to jokaydiagrid.
Pathfinder.Lester: for your inventory.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: but say i regestered an avi in this world, that would have diff inv coz id be using their asset server, not jokadias
Pathfinder.Lester: and likewise, you could rez something here from your inventory
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, yes
Mel.Blauvelt: to what extent does RG have access to the Jokaydia grid asset server Path?
Pathfinder.Lester: your inventory lives on the grid where your avatar was created.
Pathfinder.Lester: Mel, well, jokaydiagrid is a grid hosted on ReactionGrid’s hardware….
Pathfinder.Lester: but jokaydiagrid it it’s own grid fully.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so best to have a ‘master avi’ for all the grids to take advantage of using inv in all worlds
Pathfinder.Lester: so it has it’s own asset server.
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, precisely.
Neo.Cortex: unfortunately not that easy at the moment
Neo.Cortex: since we have those 3 hypergrid versions out there
Nyx.Ivory: today i was able to get my jokay avi to Reaction grid – but not my RG avi to Jokay – was that just a hiccup?
Neo.Cortex: 1.0, for the 0.6.9. opensim, 1.5 for Diva distro and most 0.7 grids
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: its a great idea thou, see how it works now
Pathfinder.Lester: Nyx, probably
Neo.Cortex: and 1.5 with the new version 7 interface on osgrid 😦
Pathfinder.Lester: this region seems happier now. not so much lag for me.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: anything rezzed is like passing from jokadia asset server to this one
Pathfinder.Lester: i think our group was too big for it. lol
Nyx.Ivory: needs more tea before i contemplate the concept of identity on the hypergrids
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, precisely.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so if i had another alt that was set up here, i could pass my inv to them (if set to trans)
Pathfinder.Lester: Leon, correct.
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: good stuff!
Raindrops.Silvercloud: this “vogel” looks really great on a shoulder:-)
Pathfinder.Lester: and whenever I find a place that has freebies, and allows rezzing, i always like to leave something of mine.
Pathfinder.Lester: give back to the freebie community. 🙂
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: originally when first heard of hypergrid thought it was just a holding place of logins and was using to go from world to world

lara sanders: hallo
Pathfinder.Lester: hi lara
lara sanders: kann leidr kein englisch :))
Pathfinder.Lester: lara, you are local to Metropolis?
Pathfinder.Lester: ooh no prob
Oronoque.Westland: I found an octopus Pathfinder left on Francogrid
Raindrops.Silvercloud: hi lara:)
Neo.Cortex: soll ich übersetzen?
Pim.Peccable: I am American
Pim.Peccable: I hope my babbler is Translating to German
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: so hypergrid wouldnt work on a standalone OS?
Pathfinder.Lester: Lara, we are visiting with our Hypergrid Adventurers Club
Pathfinder.Lester: https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/
Pathfinder.Lester: very nice to meet you lara
Pim.Peccable: is Pandora a group here in Metropolis?
lara sanders: ja
lara sanders: bist du neu hier?
Pim.Peccable: Yes, I am part of a group
Pim.Peccable: We explore other Grids
Mel.Blauvelt: wir kommen von Jokaydia und Francogrid ara
lara sanders: ah schön
Nyx.Ivory: good to meet you all – thank you again, Pathfinder 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: we are all explorers of the Hypergrid!
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: yes, great to see it working ‘in the field’
lara sanders: hallo lester
LeonTubrok.Beaumont: thanks for showing us pathfinder
Pathfinder.Lester: this is our first exploration to Metropolis
Pim.Peccable: We use this Babbler device to translate what we say
Pim.Peccable: We have only seen this station so far
lara sanders: ja sowas kene ich von sl
lara sanders: aber hier hab ich noch keinen gesehen
Pathfinder.Lester: i will leave a babbler box in the freebie store downstairs.
lara sanders: danke schön
Pathfinder.Lester: lara, how long have you been on Metropolis?
lara sanders: bin seit 3 monaen hier auf metropolis
Pathfinder.Lester: cool
Pathfinder.Lester: do you have your own region here?
lara sanders: nein noch nicht abe erst eine testparzelle
lara sanders: fuer 3 monate
Pathfinder.Lester: i see
lara sanders: danach will ich eine eigene
Pathfinder.Lester: i can read a little german, so I can understand you. 🙂
Neo.Cortex: Babbler this work quite well ^ ^
Pathfinder.Lester: Neo, yes. it is very useful.
Pim.Peccable: These Bablers only translate one way
Pathfinder.Lester: yes, it only translates what the wearer says in chat.
Pathfinder.Lester: it does not translate what other people say.
Neo.Cortex: There is a built-in viewer imprudence translator
Pathfinder.Lester: Neo, really? i have not used that.
Pim.Peccable: It can work on the HUD too
Oronoque.Westland: lovely train
Pathfinder.Lester: i will have to explore how to use that. thank you for the information, Neo.
Pim.Peccable: I had not thought to try that either

Brunhild Messerchmitt: huhu zusammen
Pim.Peccable: Hi Brunhild
Brunhild Messerchmitt: betriebsausflug?
Pathfinder.Lester: we are explorers
Pathfinder.Lester: Wir sind Entdecker
Pathfinder.Lester: exploring the Hypergrid
Pathfinder.Lester: we have a club
Pathfinder.Lester: https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/
Pim.Peccable: Now I feel like a Space explorer on Television 🙂
Pim.Peccable: Jetzt fühle ich mich likea Space Explorer im Fernsehen:)
Pathfinder.Lester: we had about 20 people here a few minutes ago.
Brunhild Messerchmitt: ah sorry, you speak english
Pathfinder.Lester: no problem
Pathfinder.Lester: we are using Babbler too
Pim.Peccable: Quite all right
Pathfinder.Lester: so other people can understand us.
Pim.Peccable: We brought Translators
Brunhild Messerchmitt: hmm, i dont like those translaters
Brunhild Messerchmitt: they speak a lot of nonsense
Pim.Peccable: I would prefer to learn laguages, but they save time
Pathfinder.Lester: lol
Pathfinder.Lester: Pim, i agree.
Neo.Cortex: well, if all find a common language we do not need the
Pathfinder.Lester: babbler only works with short sentences.
Pim.Peccable: So we must all learn either Esperanto or Klingon
Raindrops.Silvercloud: hi brunhild, sorry for not noticing, got lost with all those destinations here!
Pathfinder.Lester: Brunhild, what is “Pandora 5” ?
Pim.Peccable: My guess is Night Life
Pim.Peccable: Meine Vermutung ist, Night Life
Pathfinder.Lester: Oh Raindrops, i love that bird on your shoulder!

Brunhild Messerchmitt: pandora is a region with 16 smal places for newbies
Brunhild Messerchmitt: they can live there for 3 Month for free
Raindrops.Silvercloud: lol, got that from the freebie store downstairs – it’s really swet isnt it?
Pathfinder.Lester: very nice.
Brunhild Messerchmitt: Lara lives in Panbdora 4
Pim.Peccable: Then you request a premium?
Neo.Cortex: you are you having a bird ^ ^
Raindrops.Silvercloud: lol, neo!
Neo.Cortex: Can that be nice!
Brunhild Messerchmitt: what you mean thit “premium”?
Pim.Peccable: A fee
Neo.Cortex: ich glaub sogar das ist ne Meise 😉
Brunhild Messerchmitt: here in Metropolis yo can hosrt your own land for free
Brunhild Messerchmitt: you only need a PC and a fasdt internetconnection
Neo.Cortex: wech mit dem Teil…
Pim.Peccable: Very nice
Brunhild Messerchmitt: an i have build 2 Regions for newbies wich an be used 3 Month for free
Brunhild Messerchmitt: sorry, about my bad engish
Pim.Peccable: Oh – so the regions are temporary, not the avatar
Brunhild Messerchmitt: no
Brunhild Messerchmitt: i have a VServer with the regions. and it is permantly online
Pathfinder.Lester: your english is fine, Brunhild. thank you for speaking it for us.
Pim.Peccable: Then what changes after 3 months?
Brunhild Messerchmitt: most people build their own regions
Pim.Peccable: good
Brunhild Messerchmitt: other like to rent for more time
Brunhild Messerchmitt: but my regions are younger then three mohnth
Brunhild Messerchmitt: i think i will rent some regions for a very lowe price. full region 5 Eur per month
Pathfinder.Lester: i have been putting some freebie items in the store downstairs. I hope that is ok.
Brunhild Messerchmitt: that is ok
Pathfinder.Lester: i like to leave freebies whenever i find some.
Pim.Peccable: An excelent policy. I should try that
Pathfinder.Lester: take a freebie, leave a freebie. 🙂
Brunhild Messerchmitt: thats a nice idea
Brunhild Messerchmitt: but you should make them full perm because nobody can move them to another place if there ar no rights
Pim.Peccable: Yes, Freebies are not much use unless full perm
Pathfinder.Lester: everything i left should be full perm.
Pathfinder.Lester: alles, was ich links sollte Full Perm werden.
Pathfinder.Lester: i just checked.
Pathfinder.Lester: Ich habe gerade überprüft.
Brunhild Messerchmitt: and, mybe, the owner of the sshop like to put them tio another place in his shop
Pathfinder.Lester: maybe i could set up a freebie shop here
Pathfinder.Lester: does it cost anything to have a shop here?
Uwe Furse: Hi Folks
Brunhild Messerchmitt: no
Brunhild Messerchmitt: its free
Brunhild Messerchmitt: most here in metropolis is free
Pathfinder.Lester: Brunhild, i would like to get a shop here. Who should I speak with to arrange that?
Pim.Peccable: There’s an idea. leave notecard with a path back to RG & Jokaydia when we come
Pathfinder.Lester: it would be a Hypergrid Adventurers Club information and freebie shop. 🙂
Da5id.Zsigmond: good idea
Pim.Peccable: The address to our grid appears after our name, but direct teleport is not usually possible (pathfinder is the expert on that)
Brunhild Messerchmitt: if you find a free shop you can take ist. you shouldnt leave some illegal things like hard pornograpghie or so
Pathfinder.Lester: oh no
Pathfinder.Lester: I’m PG
Pathfinder.Lester: lol
Pathfinder.Lester: so i can just choose an empy store and just start building?
Brunhild Messerchmitt: you could talk to lena vanilly. she is here the boss
Pathfinder.Lester: ok
Brunhild Messerchmitt: but i think its no problem
Pathfinder.Lester: do you have lena’s email address?
Brunhild Messerchmitt: no, but you can contact her in the metropolis forum in the internet
Pathfinder.Lester: ok
Pathfinder.Lester: ty
Pathfinder.Lester: i will do that
Brunhild Messerchmitt: http://metropolis.hypergrid.org/forum/
Brunhild Messerchmitt: but you need to register yourself there
Pathfinder.Lester: and i will contact lena to see if the empty store I chose is ok to use
Brunhild Messerchmitt: thats a good idea 🙂
Raindrops.Silvercloud: bye!
Pathfinder.Lester: i must leave too
Pathfinder.Lester: it was great to meet you all from Metropolis
Raindrops.Silvercloud: thank you all for the great adventure! 🙂

That’s the end of our first meeting on Sunday.  Here’s our second meeting.

Meeting #14
11/21/2010 : 10pm GMT

8 Hypernauts in attendance:

gill beaumont
Johnnie Waugh
Joel Foner
Susan Briere
Graham Mills
Arwenna Stardust
Cider Jack
Pathfinder Lester

1 Local Visitor we met in Metropolis:

Lena Vanilli

Pathlandia was in the middle of rebooting, so we gathered on the region Scooter on jokaydiaGRID.

Cider Jack: need an official secondary meeting point in this sort of instance
Pathfinder Lester: Cider, i think Scooter would probably be a good place
Cider Jack: seems as good as any!
Arwenna Stardust: well Scooter is as good as any – yes Path
Pathfinder Lester: that’s where folks would arrive if they tried to log in
Pathfinder Lester: directly to pathlandia.
Cider Jack: and where everyone defaults to when crash
Arwenna Stardust: nods
Pathfinder Lester: yep
Pathfinder Lester: well, welcome everyone to the Hypergrid Adventurers Club.
Arwenna Stardust: ok – Clare Atkins here/Arwenna Stardust here and in SL
Pathfinder Lester: sorry about the bumps
Arwenna Stardust: was leader of Slenz project
Susan Briere: It’s part of being an adventurer, Pathfinder.
Arwenna Stardust: now VLENZ 🙂 see us on Kokako
Pathfinder Lester: i blog our transcripts, so if you don’t want your chat on my blog, please just say so.
Arwenna Stardust: I teach IT – in RL and in SL atm
Cider Jack: I’m part owner/builder of the Applewood sim here on Jokaydiagrid along with Arwenna Stardust. After spending over three great years in SL I’m glad to find an OS grid to call my new home. 🙂 I’m here because I enjoy building, and welcome inspiration from all sources. Perpetually under development, Applewood is open for exploration – various freebies can be found scattered throughout the sim! More will continually be added as time and inspiration allow…
Graham Mills is a biologist / educator from Liverpool, UK — he was someone else last week
Susan Briere: I guess you could say I’m a virtual vagabond at this time. I’m exploring.. looking for a place to set down some roots. I’d like to be involved in ed-tech initiatives as I am provide technical support to K-12 schools in RL.
Pathfinder Lester: Joel, did you introduce yourself while I was gone?
Pathfinder Lester: could you type that again so i have it for the chatlog?
Joel Foner: sure
Joel Foner: “who’s joel”
Joel Foner: technical project manager, process improvement coach, troubled project rescue (lots of troubled project rescue 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: hah
Joel Foner: with a variety of maybe surprising background with conventional and virtual worlds environments
Arwenna Stardust: Susan we are just about to start on an WoWinShcool project
Joel Foner: inc project manager for the havok4 rollout in sl a few years back 😉
Cider Jack: as long as troubled project rescue doesn’t become a troubled project itself
Pathfinder Lester: Joel is like the A-Team
Arwenna Stardust: too early on a Monday morning for typing accurately!
Joel Foner: thanks path 🙂
Pathfinder Lester: if your project needs help, and you can find him, you could hire….the Joel-Team
Cider Jack tries to imagine an avatar that is an amalgamation of the chracters from the show…
Arwenna Stardust: could be an interesting avatar!
Joel Foner: if interested… there’s a longer than one liner here with various client comments http://joelfoner.com/about
Arwenna Stardust: but this would have to be the J-Team
Arwenna Stardust: http://vlenz.edumuve.ac.nz for more info on us
Pathfinder Lester: well, for today, we’re going to a grid called Metropolis
Pathfinder Lester: it’s a german grid
Pathfinder Lester: we visited Metropolis earlier today in the earlier HGAC meeting
Pathfinder Lester: had about 20 ppl in that group
Arwenna Stardust: is that named from the film Path?
Pathfinder Lester: Arwenna, yes, i think so
Joel Foner: <- someday wants to host a group on my netbook at a cafe, just for grins… kinda funny to imagine everyone standing on the edge of the table 😀
Pathfinder Lester: if anyone does not have the notecard I handed out, please let me know.
Pathfinder Lester: our itinerary is on the notecard

— Contents of Notecard —
Before doing any Hypergrid jumps, be sure you have set your Home location and have relogged since you set it.  If you don’t, Hypergrid jumps will not work.  This appears to be a bug.

Many people find the Imprudence viewer to be very good for using with both SL and other grids.  You can find it here: http://imprudenceviewer.org/

*** How to make Hypergrid Jumps in 4 easy steps ***
1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter  the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.

*** Our Starting Location ***
Hypergrid Address: 66.240.233.81:9001:pathlandia
Region Name: “Pathlandia”
Grid Location: jokaydiaGRID (Lower)
************************

Hypergrid Jump #1
Hypergrid Address: hypergrid.reactiongrid.com:9009
Region Name: “HG Gateway 1”
Grid Location: ReactionGrid (Middle)
Grid Website: http://reactiongrid.com

We’ll be making this jump using one of the instant Hypergates on Pathlandia.  It’s the stone archway next to the Tardis..   Just walk up to the archway and walk through it.  You will automatically make a Hypergrid jump to “HG Gateway 1.”

For more information on how these instant Hypergates work, see:
https://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2010/10/29/the-metaphor-of-portals/

“HG Gateway 1” is a handy jump point in the “middle” of the Hypergrid.

Hypergrid Jump #2
Hypergrid Address: metropolis.hypergrid.org:9000:*CenterWorld*
Region Name: “*CenterWorld*”
Grid Location:  Metropolis (Upper)
Grid Website: http://metropolis.hypergrid.org

This will be a manual Hypergrid jump.  Follow the 4 steps at the top of this notecard.

Once we arrive at “*CenterWorld*” we’ll explore the train station and freebie market on this German grid.  Look for the nice examples of classic german homes and architecture.

***
jokaydiaGRID has a Newbie Dome for folks to pick up freebies that can help them get started.  If you find any good freebies in your Hypergrid travels that you’d like to share, you can put them in the Newbie Dome.   There’s currently a lack of many good outfits and items for male avatars, so it would be great if we could find more items like that to share.
— End of Notecard —

Arwenna Stardust: so has Metropolis recovered from your earlier excursions Pathfinder?
Pathfinder Lester: lol
Pathfinder Lester: i think so
Arwenna Stardust: 🙂
Johnnie Waugh: *smiles8
Pathfinder Lester: i think it was just overwhelmed by 20 ppl all hypergrid jumping in at the same time
Pathfinder Lester: but it should be fine now
Arwenna Stardust: not surprising – it still amazes me that we can do it at all!
Pathfinder Lester: so in the notecard, it says we’re going to use a hypergate on pathlandia for the first jump….
Pathfinder Lester: but since pathlandia is not working rightnow, we’ll just do it manually
Pathfinder Lester: 1) Open your World Map.
2) In the text box next to the Search button, enter the Hypergrid Address.
3) Click the Search button and wait for the map to move to the jump region.
4) Click the Teleport button.
Pathfinder Lester: and our first jump is to hypergrid.reactiongrid.com:9009
Pathfinder Lester: everyone try to jump to that first point. i’ll wait to see if you make it.

We all make a manual Hypergrid jump to the region HG Gateway 1 on ReactionGrid.

Then we all make a manual Hypergrid jump to the region *CenterWorld* on Metropolis grid.

Pathfinder.Lester: hello Lena!
Lena Vanilli: hi pathfinder
Pathfinder.Lester: thank you for meeting us here
Lena Vanilli: we are honoured to get a visit from the famous reaction grid 😉
Graham.Mills: 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: we are from jokaydiagrid too
Lena Vanilli: and you are performing travels to different grids?
Pathfinder.Lester: Lena, yes. every week we go to different grids.

Susan.Briere: What is the tower to the south?
Susan.Briere: The tall skinny tower. with the lady on top?
Lena Vanilli: oror the brandenburger tor from berlin ???
Lena Vanilli: ahhh, thats the “siegessäule” from berlin
Susan.Briere: That must be.. it’s to the south on the Mini Map
Lena Vanilli: may i make a suggestion for your visit?
Pathfinder.Lester: Lena, please do!
Arwenna.Stardust: please yes 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: please show us whatever you wish
Lena Vanilli: well, for the creative ones the visit of eppolonien would be very interesting
Lena Vanilli: the yoshiwara sim hosts a lot of avatar outfits
Lena Vanilli: the sim “rotwangs labor” is a copy of the firm “metropolis” from fritz lang
Lena Vanilli: with man y scenes in 3d
Arwenna.Stardust: ah! I was wondering if there was a connection to that film 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: wow, those all sound great
Graham.Mills confesses he has only ever seen clips from the film but imagines it will be very atmospheric
Arwenna.Stardust: I will just have to come back to see them all 🙂
Susan.Briere: Would it possible to share landmarks to each so that we might visit them all in good time?
Johnnie.Waugh: why does that sometimes happen that you dont go to where youw ant
Pathfinder.Lester: Johnnie, the hypergrid tubes get crossed sometimes?
Johnnie.Waugh: ahh I see
Lena Vanilli: you can watch the film in the cinema of “zittau”
Arwenna.Stardust: the knots in spacetime come undone a bit sometimes John ? 🙂
Cider.Jack: wow, is Zittau on the grid?
Graham.Mills: Non-technical explanation pls
Lena Vanilli: our traveol agencies here are not so well equipped at the moment
Lena Vanilli: but we are trying 😉
Pathfinder.Lester: 😉
Johnnie.Waugh: Hmm yes I find trhe fabgric of my reality sometimes wears a bit thin
Lena Vanilli: yes, it is
Cider.Jack: cool, I’ve never seen a full film on a VW 🙂
Pathfinder.Lester: Lena,if you have time, why don’t you pick a place you would really like to show us and we can go there?
Graham.Mills: Some excellent suggestions — ty, Lena
Arwenna.Stardust: then we will come back and see theothers later 🙂
Joel.Foner: path, if you add friends from anothergrid, can you only talk to them when you’re on that grid?
Pathfinder.Lester: Arwenna, definitely
Pathfinder.Lester: Joel, correct
Lena Vanilli: well, we also host the c.a.r.p.-project here
Pathfinder.Lester: friendships don’t work across the hypergrid yet.
Joel.Foner: ok
Lena Vanilli: did you hear about it?
Susan.Briere: What is the c.a.r.p project, Lena?
Lena Vanilli: well, its a network of artists through out the world
Arwenna.Stardust: yes please tell us more Lena
Lena Vanilli: they make performances
Lena Vanilli: every week
Susan.Briere: Ooohh, that sounds terrific.
Lena Vanilli: and two of this are here on metropolis on the sims carp-1 and carp-2
Arwenna.Stardust: mainly music Lena ? or other things too?
Lena Vanilli: sounds and pictures
Lena Vanilli: mostly pictures
Lena Vanilli: and rotwangs labor
Lena Vanilli: please visit this sim, its very famous
Arwenna.Stardust: ok!
Pathfinder.Lester: Rotwangs_Labor ?
Lena Vanilli: i am terrible sorry, but i have to go now
Pathfinder.Lester: don’t be sorry, plesae
Graham.Mills: tyvm, Lena
Susan.Briere: Thank you so much, Lena
Pathfinder.Lester: thank you so much for all this information
Graham.Mills: You have been most helpful
Pathfinder.Lester: we are so happy you were here when we arrived 🙂
Lena Vanilli: i hope that i see you again here, it was a real pleasure for me
Arwenna.Stardust: for us too!
Pathfinder.Lester: take care, Lena. hope to see you again soon!!
Joel.Foner: thanks lena 🙂

Pathfinder.Lester: there are some freebies inside. i can show you where they are
Graham.Mills: Lead on 🙂
Johnnie.Waugh: Path I use Hyperica a lot but is there any map or atlast which shows besides hypergates.com and hypericahe linkages with key upper, middle andlower gates
Pathfinder.Lester: Johnnie, none to my knowledge.
Pathfinder.Lester: i’ve never seen one
Johnnie.Waugh: hmmm
Pathfinder.Lester: that donkey is too funny
Arwenna.Stardust: there is a good idea for you Joyhnnie!
Johnnie.Waugh: I’ve been tryiong to creat emy own… but is difficult
Arwenna.Stardust: the map not the donkey 🙂
Johnnie.Waugh: Laughing,,,heeehawwwww


Pathfinder.Lester: lol
Arwenna.Stardust: 😀
Pathfinder.Lester: some freebie skins and clothes on the wall here
Pathfinder.Lester: nice couches too
Arwenna.Stardust: dont fall asleep Path!
Pathfinder.Lester: lol
Arwenna.Stardust: Isa Goodman is looking for good clothes to put into the Hyperdome we are bringing over from SL
Pathfinder.Lester: Arwenna, nice!
Arwenna.Stardust: suitable interview clothes for students to choose from – these look possible!
Pathfinder.Lester: oh, i found a travel bureau
Pathfinder.Lester: there are landmarks in the signs here


Pathfinder.Lester: i have to head out now
Pathfinder.Lester: hope this was fun!
Pathfinder.Lester: we’ll definitely have more tours to some of the other regions that Lena mentioned
Johnnie.Waugh: Thanks Pathfinder
Pathfinder.Lester: i’ll do more exploring here and will make sure we have landmarks to them all.
Joel.Foner: see you path thanks
Arwenna.Stardust: good idea
Pathfinder.Lester: but for now, dinner calls to me. lol
Arwenna.Stardust: by Joel!
Joel.Foner: concept of “store” is kind of interestig in aplace where you can take copies f mostthings…
Arwenna.Stardust: and buye Path – thanks as always!
Pathfinder.Lester: Freebie Store
Pathfinder.Lester: kind of like Jumbo Shrimp
Pathfinder.Lester: lol
Joel.Foner: hehe yup
Arwenna.Stardust: LOL
Pathfinder.Lester: take care, folks. have a good evening

And so ends another day of exploring with the Hypergrid Adventurers Club.

-John “Pathfinder” Lester

3 thoughts on “Hypergrid Adventurers Club meet #13+14: Exploring the German grid of Metropolis Metaversum

    • My pleasure, Maria. I’m happy you find them interesting! We always try to have a good time, and there are always folks at each meeting who have never hypergrid jumped before. It’s great to see how excited they get when the realize it actually “works.” 😉

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